If Satan didnt intervine his power could have hit near SB levels. Afterwards, he wants a good challenge and remembers being promised that … Kid Buu. Anyone who says that he is weaker or that they are equals is just trolling). Angry Fat Buu is not too far off from Kid Buu, because Dai-Kaioshin's influence is weakened. Aye, if Fatty could access all of his power + kais he would be stronger. During his rampages, he absorbed the evil elements of races he eradicated and steadily became more violent and evil. Buff Buu to Fat Buu was a massive power drop. While a child-like version of Evil Buu, Kid Buu is completely feral and animalistic, living only to destroy and is called "evil incarnate". You're not saying absolute full power Fat Buu is = Super Buu, right? Yes, this what I also think. Majin Buu is a character from the anime series, Dragon Ball Z. Good/Mr Buu is the one that fights Evil Buu. Nope, he's just saying he could defeat Kid Buu. Keep in mind Shazam might get absorbed if he's not smart. Also, IIRC Goku was talking about taking out Fat Buu (who was weaker than Kid Buu, due to being held back by the Kai he absorbed). http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+39&page=63, http://view.thespectrum.net/series/dragon-ball-volume-01.html?ch=Volume+39&page=73. Shouldn't Majin Buu be a fair bit stronger than Kid buu? It was only the fat Dai Kaioushin that actually weakened Buu, as there's an established decrease in Buu's strength when he's reverting from the "Buff" South Kaioushin Buu to Pure Buu (Kid Buu). Still this makes this Kid Buu a bit weaker than the original Kid Buu. Fat Buu was suppressed by Dai Kaio, which meant that he couldn't access his full power(The Evil within). If they didn't, they where is the struggle? Most video games refer to him as Majin Buu- as he was the first Buu on-screen. It was a split between the original Buu and everyone he absorbed. The pure evil Majin Buu is a polar opposite of the "good" Majin Buu in all aspects apart from apparel (except for him having a dark blue cape whe… Anyone who says that he is weaker or that they are equals is just trolling). Super Buu was forced into that state after the fat Buu was completely removed from his body along with Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo. When Fat Buu fights Kid Buu, Fat Buu doesn't have the rest of Buu inside him. I could easily say that he didn't want to beat Super Buu alone or show off in front of Vegeta if you want to play that card. Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another RoadAfter Future Super Buu eats Future Babidi for his treachery, he changes form: upon gaining Future Babidi's power, Future Super Buu changes form and achieves his pure form, Future Kid Buu, who begins feeling an intense pain before discharging Future … When 'Fat' got angry, his power grew exponentially. I believe Fat Buu had no evil inside him then, which was the more powerful part of him. I honestly just look at it as a potential unlocked kind of situation. Actually Fat Buu was slightly more powerful, just less dangerous. I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; 1) Like to see what people on this forum think. I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; 1) Like to see what people on this forum think. 1. This explains why his reaction to the shooting of Mr. Satanwas so despicable, and even appalled the fat Majin Buu. Good Buu fights the Evil Buu. Kid buu laid a bit of his gooey body on the ground as a trap for Saitama. My guess is the story wasn't exactly rushed, but there was probably a high demand for the story to continue and this was just the way it came out. So when you consider that SSJ3 Goku and kid Buu have been even, then that means Gohan could easily take kid Buu. All in all is this what the author had in mind i dont think so. To beat Buu you to know need 3 main things. 'Fat' however was unable to access his latent power, unless he got angry. Buu tries another swing, and slices the tree off its stump. However, I feel that when Buu expelled the Pure Evil Buu, his power had spiked to that near equaling Evil Buu (Super Buu), as he was enraged to a point that he had never been before, and with the established fact that his strength increases in relation to his anger, then it's safe to say that his strength was higher than it had ever been before. Kirby slashes Buu into the air, and crashes him to the ground. There isn't an argument. I entertained the idea of Goku teaching the kids fusion before going to fight Buu while Trunks gets the radar. Since Fatty can't access to all his power. Kid Buu fight! Most video games refer to him as Majin Buu- as he was the first Buu on-screen. Goku was completely unwilling to fight Super Buu and tried to quickly resort to Potara Fusion with both Gohan and Vegeta. When Fat Buu got angry, the Dai Kaioshin's suppression was briefly lifted and Buu could access his full power. What we see during the course of his fights prior to expelling the Pure Evil Buu within him is that his strength grows in relation to his anger. Clearly there is some point when buu starts to wear out. Evil Buu represents the dark side of Majin Buu and possesses the bulk of their power, a result of Majin Buu's anger becoming more than he could resist until he expelled it as Evil Buu. Was thinking back on the series, and something confused me. It surpressed his power and made him much less skilled. Comment deleted by user 4 years ago More than 1 child. Buu shoots a laser at Kirby and misses, turning a rock into food. However he seems to be unable to harness all of that power without seperating in two, which would create rather interesting battleground with Evil, Kid and Mr.Buu. Tremendous Buu with Gohan will spoil child Buu =) Gohan is the strongest non-fused persona in DBZ. I actually think Fat Buu at this point had a very low percentage of Buu in himself, while most was in Kid Buu. When Vegeta removed Fatt Bui from Super Buu's body, Buu flipped shit saying not to remove himself from Buu even more so than when The z warriors were removed. Pure Evil Buu manifested from a cloud of steam expelled from Fat Buu, and his appearance has a very thin, grey look resembling smoke or steam. Shazam could probably take down Fat Buu maybe Super Buu and Kid Buu, not sure how it would go against Buuhan. Even if that part was surpressed, it probably added to his power. When Buu got blown to pieces from Vegeta, he came back just as strong as before. Like him fighting a Super Saiyan 3 is no different than Goku vs Fat Buu, and him beating the crap out of Vegeta is no different than Fat Buu who just one shotted him. (Also just a note, Super Buu IS much stronger than Fat Buu. I could easily say that he didn't want to beat Super Buu alone or show off in front of Vegeta if you want to play that card. That's why I'm not 100% certain that Goku's claim that he could have defeated Fat Buu was accurate, since sure, he could have defeated Buu when the latter was using the amount of power he was, but Buu was happy and enjoying his fight, not showing any signs of anger whatsoever. *Steam erupts from kid buu’s head as he shoots a volley of ki energy orbs at Saitama. By numbers Fat Buu was more powerful but Kidd Buu had more rage and force behind his destruction. Comment deleted by user 4 years ago More than 1 child. Even if he wasn't stronger, he was certainly more skilled and intelligent. While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. Fat Buu is the name used to refer to this version of Buu during his time as a villain. level 2. User Info: Walt87. The power is there, but it's hidden due specific limitations. Needing to regenerate from a bunch of small blobs did literally nothing to him. And Kid Buu never brings out this power even when he's dying. The only reason they look different is due to the nature of their formation. If Dai Kaioshin were suppressing him, he would lose. This is the main reason. Regarding Fat Buu vs Kid Buu, we have Goku's statement that he could have defeated Fat Buu easily if he wanted to, but he struggled against Kid Buu. The difference between kid Buu and Fat Buu wasn't that it was a split between Good Buu and evil Buu. In terms of raw power, Super Buu & Fat Buu should be closely rivalled, if not equals. I think dead Goku defeating fat buu is based on 2 things. I put them as equal, even though when Goku was toying with Fat Buu he was winning, yet with Kid Buu he was fighting seriously and equal with him. Buu becomes angry, transforming into Kid Buu. Or is it just that he's more timid and a worse fighter? It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. When Kid Buu first took on the form he was called Innocent Buu, when Buu removed the evil from himself he was called Good Buu, and after being accepted as an Earthling he was named Mr. Buu. You mean Good Buu. Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another RoadAfter Future Super Buu eats Future Babidi for his treachery, he changes form: upon gaining Future Babidi's power, Future Super Buu changes form and achieves his pure form, Future Kid Buu, who begins feeling an intense pain before discharging Future … Absorbing South Kaioushin was no different than absorbing Gohan and the others, a marked increase in strength that is established in the manga. Put Majin Buu aside, even Yamcha made Beerus into a laughing stock. Fat buu 300 Mr buu 200 Kid buu 400 Super buu 160,000 Buff 235,000 Grey buu 23,500 Gotenks 400 Ssj 20,000 Ssj2 40,000 Ssj3 160,000 Now this goes against some statements lol. Forum Posts. I agree on fat buu, but i cant say the same for kid buu, he was pretty even with him and then he ran outta gas. Walt87 10 months ago #23. It matters not because the Goku vs Kid Buu fight basically tells the … well kid buu > fat buu is a stated fact and SSJ3 goku wolluped fat buu it was one of gokus most one sided fights ever majin buu couldnt even TOUCH him and this was a SSj3 goku who admited to piccolo he held back Uh, what? Walt87 10 months ago #23. Kid Buu is complete Evil, but Super Buu is not since he has the fat Buu inside him on the other hand having removed the pod of fat buu has made super buu weaker.. and became kid buu ! While it may not be as good as some of the other fights in the series, Kid Buu vs … Super Buu then brutally kills Smitty, the second deranged gunman, by turning into liquid and going down his throat, making him expand until he explodes. He's essentially kid buu with a few kai's absorbed. Kid Buu shouldn't have god ki at all since that was part of Kaioshin who's in fat Buu. The Seahawks intentionally injured Carson Wentz in the 2019-20 NFC Wild Card game. I believe it's explained that Fat Buu wasn't as powerful because the Kais he absorbed made him childish and unpredictable and able to become fairly docile. the kid buu vs super buu argument just gets progressively more stupid as time goes on with the leaps in logic you have to make to believe kid buu and goku > buuhan You know it's possible for someone to believe Goku and Kid Buu > Super Buu without believing they are … The evil mage Bibidi knew how to summon and control him and eventually used him to slaughter most of the Supreme Kais. By the way, Kid Buu is wayyy more evil than Super Buu. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! If Fat Buu were to unlock his absolute full power, he would definitely dominate Kid Buu. Super Buu and Fat Buu are technically the same entities and draw their power form the same sources... 'Fat', Good Buu was dominant over the 'evil side'(Buu's latent power). Kid Buu … User Info: Walt87. BacktoBasic301. The Kai's were pure, making Buu also more pure and less evil as a whole. That's not a valid reason with the fate of the universe at stake and there being no other viable options. Reaction videos continue with the second part of the Fat Buu vs. But here lies the problem. SSJ3 Goku could have won against Kid Buu or Fat Buu. (Also just a note, Super Buu IS much stronger than Fat Buu. I wonder how they would react to each other, especially Evil and Kid Buu... Goku did say that he can beat both of them so i have them as equal. Kid Buu. The Evil Buu eats the good Majin Buu and gains his power, thus becoming Super Buu. He previously fought Kirby in the 40th episode of Death Battle, Kirby VS Majin Buu. So in the end kid buu treats him the same way he did mr buu. The V-Jump magazine that stated Buuhan is on par with SSJ3 Goku lol. Some say that Kid buu is the strongest verison of Buu, I disagree (Gohan absorbed Stomps My opinion) But i want to hear what you guys think about it!K So then he fights Fat Buu as a SSJ3 and instead of looking somewhat even, have Goku honest and truly put the Kibosh on Fat Buu, truly decimating the guy. My personal take is that his full strength would be at a level matching that of Super Buu, but in growing angry enough, it conflicts with the pure good nature of the Dai Kaioushin within him. So even if 'Fat' could access his latent power indefinitely, his physical shape would still be a determent. That means that Kid Buu must be stronger. First the original Fat Buu is weaker because absorbing the docile Kai made me basically a child. He wasn't winning.They fought equally.Both of them while in playing around-mode couldn't hurt the other one with their attacks. Well, I've always suspected the Kai's were actually a weakness when absorbed (and I think this was explained, it's been a while since I've watched the series). Take it for what it is. SS3 Goku (buu saga) vs Super Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Fat buu isn't a great fighter and Goku has far higher durability and stamina being dead then alive. That means that Kid Buu must be stronger. Kid Buu was all that power and energy except it was all used for destructive purposes, instead of making friends with World Champion Martial Artists and adopting puppies like Fat Buu. It was his lazy and gentle attitude from absorbing the Dai Kaioushin that tempered his strength, and only when he grew angry did this power really manifest. Since there's no increase in power to Evil Buu at any point apart from other absorptions (which were undone anyhow, meaning there was no increase in Evil Buu's power in total), then logically if you add one factor and then remove the exact same factor, what remains on either side should be the same. Super Buu(Evil + Good)' was mostly unhindered by such restraints, which meant he could access full depths of his power as he was nigh Pure Evil. The other part is that these feats Kid Buu has is realistically like Fat Buu level. Regardless of where anyone stands on the Kid Buu vs. Super Buu debate, it's always obnoxious when people act like a blatant retcon was always the way a story was meant to be interpreted. - As for the SSJ3 Goku vs Fat Buu idea. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The Seahawks intentionally injured Carson Wentz in the 2019-20 NFC Wild Card game. Super Buu,Kid Buu and Fat Buu(enraged to the max) vs Ultimate Gohan - May 9, 11 Neoseeker Forums » Special Interest » Dragonball » Super Buu and Kid Buu — Size Comaparison It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. So in the end kid buu treats him the same way he did mr buu. In the end, the good Majin Buu shoots out the Transfiguration Beam, and the Evil Buu blows it back towards him, turning the good Majin Buu into a piece of chocolate. Pure Evil Buu + Mr. Buu = Evil Buu - Mr. Buu = Pure Buu. He previously fought Kirby in the 40th episode of Death Battle, Kirby VS Majin Buu. I agree with this, Fat Buu kinda worked similar to young Gohan, the angrier you made him the more of his power he can tap into, I mean he holds up against Kid Buu for a little bit. His power is equal to Kid Buu + Fat Buu. Fat Buu is the one who fights SSJ3 Goku. Cancer free 52 months and counting! I've been having a debate on another forum about Kid Buu vs Fat Buu, I'm adament that Kid Buu is stronger but I'd; Well, it depends on which type of Fat Buu's power we're talking about. This is very valid indeed and its not fair to say an otherwise valid point isnt valid just because it hurts your argument. Evil Buu represents the dark side of Majin Buu and possesses the bulk of their power, a result of Majin Buu's anger becoming more than he could resist until he expelled it as Evil Buu. If they didn't, they where is the struggle? Fat Buu is the name used to refer to this version of Buu during his time as a villain. It matters not because the Goku vs Kid Buu fight basically tells the … This explains why his reaction to the shooting of Mr. Satanwas so despicable, and even appalled the fat Majin Buu. When Kid Buu absorbed the Kai's it made him substantially weaker. The one unsafe thing about kid Buu is that he used to be the original Buu, Pure Evil. Shazam could probably take down Fat Buu maybe Super Buu and Kid Buu, not sure how it would go against Buuhan. SS3 Goku (buu saga) vs Super Buu Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Follow 336. Regarding Fat Buu vs Kid Buu, we have Goku's statement that he could have defeated Fat Buu easily if he wanted to, but he struggled against Kid Buu. He's a lot like Evil Buu, in that he doesn't really seem to care if he hurts himself in the process of hurting others. All other absorptions increased his strength, with just the pure and gentle nature of Dai Kaioushin's being countering Buu's nature. Goku vs Kid Buu. If Fat Buu got angry, there is a strong chance that he would have exceeded SSJ3 Goku. Kirby swallows a beam, and swallows Buu. He dodges each one and comes close to buu, preparing his serious punch when his leg gets stuck to the ground. But his PL was continually growing. However, after absorbing the Grand Supreme Kai, he was transformed into a less evil force by the Kai's influence and was later seal… level 2. Kid Buu may not think about his actions, but that is exactly what makes him so powerful. Regardless of where anyone stands on the Kid Buu vs. Super Buu debate, it's always obnoxious when people act like a blatant retcon was always the way a story was meant to be interpreted. Kid buu was not offguard with some of Fat Buu's haxes like immortality and cloning but kid buu dominated like 90% of the fight and was clearly presented as significantly stronger then Fat Buu … But yeah ultimately Yamcha had to defeat himself to give Beerus a chance to fight against Majin Buu who is way stronger than him. It seems like in the series fat buu is a lot weaker than kid. Kid Buu = the original Buu Fat Buu = Kid Buu + South Kaioshin + Dai Kaioshin Evil Buu = the evil power inside of Fat Buu Mr. Buu = the leftover power of Fat Buu … While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. 9 months ago. My personal theory is that the Kia's Buu absorbed had just enough control to tame Buu's rage just enough to keep him from going ape shit all the time. Keep in mind Shazam might get absorbed if he's not smart. Although, Super Buu has a better fighting body and has a better fighting mind. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. In the anime, Goku even mentions that his level of power is incomparable to any other Buu. That's not a valid reason with the fate of the universe at stake and there being no other viable options. While Kid Buu is a straight up incarnation of evil, Fat Buu has absorbed the Kai's, which isn't limited to just their energy. It seems the entire series is entirely good vs evil, like many others, where evil usually has the advantage in raw energy/strength. I agree that Super Buu's definitely not as evil as Kid Buu (as he spares Mr. Satan and Bee, which Kid Buu wouldn't … If they didn't, they where is the struggle? When Evil Buu got out of him, he managed to easily beat Fat Buu. We can't take him seriously saying he could always have killed Fat Buu and yet not believe him vs. We can't take him seriously saying he could always have killed Fat Buu and yet not believe him vs. RELATED: Ranking All Of Goku's Forms Cancer free 52 months and counting! Some people will say that he couldn't be, because it was established that Pure Evil Buu was only the majority of Fat Buu's power (with the rest going to Mr. Buu) and the whole comment later of Goku saying he could beat Fat Buu. I think 'Enraged Fat Buu' might be slightly stronger than Kid Buu. 0. So in theory, 'Angry Fat Buu' should be just as strong as Super Buu, Angry Fat Buu(accessing his latent power) = 98, Fat Buu(Dai Kaio suppressing his power) = 94. I'm talking about Evil (skinny) Buu, before he absorbed Fat Buu and became Super Buu. A retcon wasn't needed to prove Kid Buu > Super Buu. I actually feel that the grey Pure Evil Buu we see is equal in strength to Pure Buu (Kid Buu), as they're both the manifestation of all the evil within Buu. Here is why. Furthermore, there's this simple equation we can derive. A retcon wasn't needed to prove Kid Buu > Super Buu. However, both Kaioshins weakened Buu. Some people may think I am crazy, but here wee go... 'In terms of raw power': Super Buu>=Enraged Fat Buu>Kid Buu>Fat Buu>Evil Buu>>Good buu/Mr Buu. When Kid Buu first took on the form he was called Innocent Buu, when Buu removed the evil from himself he was called Good Buu, and after being accepted as an Earthling he was named Mr. Buu. Super buu shitstomps kid buu , the margin is … Dai Kaioshin's gentle and carefree nature conflicted with the evil and chaotic nature of Buu. So in terms of raw power, enraged Fat Buu should closely rival Super Buu, if not equal him. Some say that Kid buu is the strongest verison of Buu, I disagree (Gohan absorbed Stomps My opinion) But i want to hear what you guys think about it!K Pure Buu however looks like a far smaller version of Evil Buu, as if the "fat" was removed from within him. Fat buu 300 Mr buu 200 Kid buu 400 Super buu 160,000 Buff 235,000 Grey buu 23,500 Gotenks 400 Ssj 20,000 Ssj2 40,000 Ssj3 160,000 Now this goes against some statements lol. Majin Buu is a character from the anime series, Dragon Ball Z. If we are talking Dragon Ball Super here than Frieza is stronger and faster and if he had knowledge of Buu and his powers, and was careful enough, he could win. 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